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Camchest, Cam, Lifters, Pushrods - S&S & BDM

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Raywood, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Raywood

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    Here are the pages from the S&S service manual for the Super Sidewinder Plus (SSW+) motors (05 and above).

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    Here is the BDM Service Manual portion of the Cam install;

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  2. chaingunner

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    That book is the handiest thing, with the BDM manual you can do anything with these bikes.

    Can you believe when I put my cam in there was NO breather gear? John Sachs thought I was nuts! He sent me one and I put it in. I noticed that after looking closer at the S&S book, realized I didn't have on in. The .600 cam alone made a difference, after installing the BG I noticed yet even more difference.
     
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    Damn!!!! :eek:
     
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    They did start removing the geared breathers and going with a reed valve type that does not have a gear. It has a spring in the center that loads against the cam nose cone.

    Did you have one of those?
     
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    I'm under the assumption that the reed valve is better. What do you guys think?

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  7. chaingunner

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    No it was empty, that's why John thought I was nuts.... :whoop:Crazy eh?
     
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    Yea that was def. somebody sleeping on the job:down:

    I like the reed for the fact no extra gear to wear, shouldn't cause any case wear because it doesnt rotate and you can't screw up lining it up with the cam. Oh and the extra 10% horsepower you get from not turning that gear!:roll:
     
  9. chaingunner

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    Yeah right! I know John wouldn't steer one in the wrong direction! :spank:
     
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    Since mine is a 04 117", is that a SSW or just the EVO?
     
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    The 117 is a SSW+ as well as 111 and 124

    107 and 113 are SSW EVO
     
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    If you look at this picture of mine it has none
     

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    So you have a SSW EVO and a SSW Plus(+)correct?
     
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    You have the newer reed breather. Its on the left with small spring sticking out.
     
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    Yea the SSW evo 107 , 113 have a 4" bore and vent thru the carb/ air cleaner plate (hollow) bolts in to the head

    The SSW+ 111, 117 and 124 haave a 4 1/8" bore, with a evo style bottom end and twin cam style top end that has seperate breather valves at the top of the heads. The rear cylinder on our bikes with the 117 that are stock have a vent line on top of the head with a black and white check valve and this line ran into the back of the air cleaner plate.

    Corrections welcome please!:cheers:
     
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    Yes V
    When I first took it apart It shocked me,wheres the gear
    but after doing a little reading it was ok
    The only thing you got to watch is the cam gear marks
    Its easy to put the wrong mark to the crank gear if your not paying attention because you only have one mark to line up and that can be death to the engine if not caught before putting cam cover back on
    Her is a picture os mine lined up
    also a picture of some industrial cylinder magnets holding up lifters so cam can be installed easier
     

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    Thanks for the info V. :cheers:
     
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    The pages are not showing up:(
    Any chance you can re-post?:cheers:
     
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    Crankcase Vacuum

    My std 117 i put in my old Springer actually pulls a crankcase vacuum on the oil tank. It freaked me out on start up, I thought I had the oil lines on wrong. I called them and they said it was normal. Pulling a vacuum equals no leaks.
     

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