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Discussion in 'General' started by drK-9, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. BWG56

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    If designed correctly, better gas mileage and a smoother running motor, almost everything these days are EFI, even chain saws, they adjust for air temp and altitude for efficiency.
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    Yea, that's all great but just seems to me that the guys with the EFI bikes have more issues than the guys without it, thanks for the info bro! :)
     
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    I did not read all but did you check fuel pressure at valve. first thing everybody should get with these bike is a shop manual. It will help a lot, you need fuel, spark and compression for engine to run, mostly likely NOT a compression problem,
     
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    May want to see about getting your tank re aligned. I have a hunch that the liner is breaking up and clogging your fuel. That would explain your symptoms. You should also clean out all your lines and may want to blow compressed air through them to get any debris out. The plug should have a jst connection somewhere in your wiring harness.


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  5. drK-9

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    It’s my understanding there is a fuel filter in there too. Hopefully it worked , filled up, and kept the crap out of the rest of the system
     
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    Like I said, if designed correctly. The only ones that you hear about on the forum are the guys that have a problem. What ya don't hear is hey I have a Bulldog EFI and it runs great:old2:
    When did they start switching over to EFI in cars, late 80's early 90's.
     
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    If you find out that it wasn't a fuel problem. PM me your phone number and I will try and help you out with your bike!!!
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. If the liner is pulling away from the sides of the tank, it may also be doing the same around the fuel filter/pump and be creating a restriction in fuel pressure thus causing the inability to stay running. I would definitely drain and pull the tank and see what you find in there.
     
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    Drain and pull the tank n let it sit for a week, what’s left of the liner will dry out and come out like a snake skin. I’m running without a liner and I don’t have to worry about another liner coming apart again. This is my 2nd tank from Big Dog n both liners came apart, I say skip the liner and if you think the liner helps it from leaking, get the tank fixed, it shouldn’t leak without a liner.
     
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    What are the benefits from running the liner in the tank? Mine has debris in mine, and I know I need to take it off drain it, and get all the remnants out of mine too, just trying to figure out whether or not to re-line mine. Also, what's the best way to get the tank lining out?
     
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    I think Marky-Marc may have done a video on cleaning the inside of a tank and re-lining it. I'll go see if I can find it on YouTube.
     
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    Here's the prepping the gas tank for liner removal link:

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    Unfortunately I don't see his third segment in this series of videos. Maybe someone else has it?
     
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    Run non ethanol gas and if you can't due to availability use the ethanol treatment that neutralizes the ethanol
     
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    You line a gas tank also to help stop rust from forming. A lot of tanks that aren't lined properly will start to rust inside and allow gas in some cases to seep trough to the outside of the tank!
     
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    I've been running without a liner for 3 years now, I will update in another 10 if it leaks.:D
     
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    Well after a few weeks of just looking at the broke down new bike, I called the guys at Big Dog. (Know the shop is just 5 miles from my house and 1 mile from my office) The guys there were awesome! They said just bring it right in, I did that yesterday, after a quick one over they think it just needs the fuel system/pump rebuild kit which they have in stock. Great experience and even better guys! Nice to be so close, as they said people ship them bikes from around the world for service. Cool. I'll keep everyone updated...
     
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    They spent lots of time with me and showed me around the place. I think and they think it's another problem due to ethanol. I'm sure the previous owner probably used ethanol blend, I personally never use any ethanol in any of my boats, bikes, lawn mowers, toys, etc...
     
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    Picked up the sickle on Thursday and rod it home... I immediately fell back in love with it. It runs out like a champ again! Rebuilt the fuel pump, fixed a few little other things, and complete service. I was all bundled up, yes, but it was still cold as crap! The guys at BDM here in Wichita are awesome! Looking forward to this summer riding out to Flint Oak to meet you guys!
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