Still no go

[Letbigdogintocanada]

Just replaced the starter but still when I hit the start button the starter gear just free spins the clutch gear ,any help would be greatly appreciated,

 

[PacoPetty]

@Mr. Wright can probably help you.

 

[KaptinAmerika]

That is a bit odd with a new starter.
Clearly the starter solenoid is either not pushing the intermediate shaft out or something is impeeding it from pushing the shaft out. Have you tried popping the solenoid cover off and pushing the shaft out manually to make sure something isn't interfering mechanically.

 

[bdm7250]

I was unable to make it up there this weekend to lend a hand, however from the texts I received this is my understanding of what is happening; The starter does engage the ring gear correctly, spins the ring gear BUT the primary sprocket does not rotate thus the primary chain does not move and engine does not turn over. Ring gear and primary sprocket should be bolted or riveted together, correct? So my guess would be that they have sheared apart, he can spin the clutch basket/ring gear freely without the primary chain moving. Never had an issue such as this and without seeing it in person I'm taking a stab in the dark..

 

[Th3InfamousI]

I was unable to make it up there this weekend to lend a hand, however from the texts I received this is my understanding of what is happening; The starter does engage the ring gear correctly, spins the ring gear BUT the primary sprocket does not rotate thus the primary chain does not move and engine does not turn over. Ring gear and primary sprocket should be bolted or riveted together, correct? So my guess would be that they have sheared apart, he can spin the clutch basket/ring gear freely without the primary chain moving. Never had an issue such as this and without seeing it in person I'm taking a stab in the dark..

Correcto Mundo. 04 AnD early are Harley and the ring gear bolts to the clutch basket. If that's the case I would think he had metal in there or saw Bolt heads laying in the primary?

Unlike 05+ that it's all one unit. The Bolt is nice cause you can replace a worn starter gear very cheaply!


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[roadie1389]

There are 5 bolts go through the carrier to the sprocket.

 

[Letbigdogintocanada]

There are 5 bolts go through the carrier to the sprocket.

Thanks Roadie,Looks like something gave in the carrier

 

[Mr. Wright]

@Mr. Wright can probably help you.

Looks like I'm a little late to the party on the one, and you all got this one figured out.

 

[Mr. Wright]

Thanks Roadie,Looks like something gave in the carrier

If you have problems getting the broke bolts out, give me a holler.

 

[Letbigdogintocanada]

Thank for all the info ,greatly appreciated ,the sprocket freely spins in both directions

 

[roadie1389]

If you have a mirror and a flash light you might be able to see behind the carrier otherwise looks like somebody is taking a clutch apart Make sure to keep the friction rings/plates in the same order. I did mine and placed it upside down, tapped the backside and all the plates came out.

I got replacement lock tabs from JPCycle -

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-0293/american-prime-manufacturing-inc-clutch-nut-lock-tabs

 

[Letbigdogintocanada]

I was unable to make it up there this weekend to lend a hand, however from the texts I received this is my understanding of what is happening; The starter does engage the ring gear correctly, spins the ring gear BUT the primary sprocket does not rotate thus the primary chain does not move and engine does not turn over. Ring gear and primary sprocket should be bolted or riveted together, correct? So my guess would be that they have sheared apart, he can spin the clutch basket/ring gear freely without the primary chain moving. Never had an issue such as this and without seeing it in person I'm taking a stab in the dark..

Thanks Doug ,might take you up on that offer coming this Saturday

 

[Letbigdogintocanada]

If you have a mirror and a flash light you might be able to see behind the carrier otherwise looks like somebody is taking a clutch apart Make sure to keep the friction rings/plates in the same order. I did mine and placed it upside down, tapped the backside and all the plates came out.

I got replacement lock tabs from JPCycle -

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-0293/american-prime-manufacturing-inc-clutch-nut-lock-tabs

If you have a mirror and a flash light you might be able to see behind the carrier otherwise looks like somebody is taking a clutch apart Make sure to keep the friction rings/plates in the same order. I did mine and placed it upside down, tapped the backside and all the plates came out.

I got replacement lock tabs from JPCycle -

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-0293/american-prime-manufacturing-inc-clutch-nut-lock-tabs

you probably right,thanks for all the help and info,greatly appreciated

 

[Letbigdogintocanada]

If you have a mirror and a flash light you might be able to see behind the carrier otherwise looks like somebody is taking a clutch apart Make sure to keep the friction rings/plates in the same order. I did mine and placed it upside down, tapped the backside and all the plates came out.

I got replacement lock tabs from JPCycle -

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/220-0293/american-prime-manufacturing-inc-clutch-nut-lock-tabs

Did you upgrade to carbon fibre plates?

 

[roadie1389]

Nope, just put it all back together. Had to fix some leaks and new stator.