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Traded forward control kits, now shift rod doesn't seem to "shift"

Discussion in 'Technical' started by No H2O, May 30, 2018.

  1. No H2O

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    I'm probably not going to explain this well but here's my best try:
    I bought an 04 Ridgeback with an extended forward control kit (two frame mounting plates and a shift rod).
    I traded for a stock forward control kit (again two frame mounting plates and a shorter shift rod).
    I mounted everything but then when I try to shift (with the engine off) I realized that the lever by the transmission was pulling the shift lever by the foot all the way back so there was no "room" for the foot to shift the foot lever towards the rear/upwards (and therefore into a higher gear).
    I figured the foot shift lever should be centered enough so that the foot shifter
    could shift forwards (downshifting) or backwards (upshifting).
    So I loosened the shift rod almost to the point where the ends were coming out and it couldn't be loosened any more.
    Same thing, the foot shift lever is all the way in the back/rear position and when I clutch in and try to shift (electricity on but engine not running), no shifting.
    I doubt turning the bike on will help this situation but if so I'll do it tomorrow since it's middle of the night here, I'm well into a 12-pack at this point, and this thing's pretty loud
    temp-RB-shift-rod.jpg
    Oh and while I'm at it, where is the oil dipstick and any ideas why can't I get my gas cap off?
     
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    Bike being on won't make a difference. Sounds like the rod is too short. How long is it?
     
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    I ran into the same exact problem when i traded foot controls. I had to get a different sized shifter rod. I ordered mine from Donna and it worked out perfect. I will measure mine and let you know what size i had to get when i get home from work in the morning. I have an 04 Chopper DT. Im not 100% sure you will need the same size though. Maybe someone else can chime in and let us know.
     
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    The shorter shift rod that I traded for measures 16.25" from center of hole to center of hole as pictured above.
    Looks like I erroneously assumed that there was either a stock control shift rod or an extended control shift rod but it's likely that there are different length shift rods based on year/model.
    I'm on a mobile device today, howdo I contact Donna to order a stock shift rod for an 04 ridgeback?
     
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    Order you a redesigned gas cap while you at, alcohol over time swells the rubber and a bitch to get off and on. I got a new one from Curtis slick as butter now.
     
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    Calling now for the shift rod and gas cap ...
     
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    Getting off the old gas cap, can I just use pliers or will that mess up something else?
     
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    if you use pliars make sure to tape up the tanks good so you won't damage the paint. a small filter wrench might work just covet the tank cap with a rag or something.
     
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    Yeah, this guy n I traded up and ran onto the same issues.. they have all different size rods.. need to line it up with ur brake and measure.
     
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    No oil cap dipstick unless you have a rigid then you can buy one but only for some models..lol

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    I ended up ordering the 15 3\8" shifter rod. Perfect fit with the heim joints screwed most of the way in.
     
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    I had 2 extra ones different sizes, gave them to Eric, mabe he can chime in and see if one of them will help u and u n him work a deal. I think they were like 29 bucks a piece if I'm not mistaking
     
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    I'm working on the assumption that the shift lever up front should be roughly in the center of its range of motion, this way it shifts both down gears and up gears. I'm about to go measure and order, is my assumption correct or is there another/better way of determining which shift rod length I need to obtain?
     
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    This makes sense
     
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    Really how I did it was just made sure it was inline with my rear brake lever. But yes.. u got the right idea.
     
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    so the front shifter and the rear brake lever should be the same distance away from the frame?
     
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    04 Chopper. I believe the Ridge and Chopper front should be about the same. I will measure it when I get home.

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    So I measured the length of my shift rod not including the ends and it's about 12 & 7/8"
    When I manually place the shifter in the middle of its range so that the foot shift pedal lines up roughly with the opposing brake pedal, it looks like I could use an additional 2.5-3" in length on the shift rod
     
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    You need to measure bolt hole to bolt hole and give them that measurement.total length should include the heim joints.
     
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