05 regulator/rectifier

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jbarrettb

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42 amp unit, when testing the diodes in the rectifier I'm seeing flow in one direction but not the other when testing the positive side...just as it should be. Problem is there is no flow in either direction when testing the ground side. If this 42 amp system is a full wave 4 diode type this reg/rect is bad...unless there is something I don't know about this particular system or system type. I've tested two new BDM units in the past two days and both failed the testing in the same way. Are they junk?
Who manufacturers this stuff for BDM?

JB
 

mobsta

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yes intro please than im sure the electrical gurus will chime in here.the intro:dupe:will surely get you!:lol::whoop::cheers:
 

jbarrettb

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Sure could use some information here. This is a customer bike..why is it no one anywhere seems to know a thing about this regulator/rectifier.
This is the help section, no?

JB
 
An intro would be nice.
A little more info would help.
What problem is it that you are actually trying to resolve beyond trying to figure out the regulator on BDs.
Bike doesn't run, won't start e.t.c.
There are a number of recalls for these bikes. Have all the recalls been done?
Not looking for a fight, just think you need to give us more info if you really expect any help or suggestions.
 

Raywood

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Thank you! that is useful. Got any idea who made the thing for BDM?

JB
Not sure who makes it but the coil is made by Crane and the VR could be a Thunderheart as they make all the electronics for our bikes. A BDM tech at the factory tells me that the Compu-Fire is a good replacement unit though.

Also, our stators are only 32-35 amp not 42 as you posted. Check in the tech section and you'll find some great toubleshooting threads that a member from the factory wrote telling us how to troubleshoot the electronics.

:cheers:
 

armad

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I had asked the same question. It seems that no one knows who the vendor is that makes them for BDM. All I know is that they seem to be a part of the problem with the electronics on these bikes. I replaced mine on my 2008 Mutt. There is a recall on the 04 and 05 voltage regulators. Mine was an 06, but still crapped out. If you look at the bottom of the regulator you can tell the manufacture date from the numbers on it. Here is part of the recall. It covers other models also. Go to the NHSTA site and plug in the year model etc. It will tell you the models covered. You can also search voltage regulator on this forum. Good luck!


Make: BIGDOG Model: MASTIFF
Model Year: 2005
Manufacturer: BIG DOG MOTORCYCLES, LLC Mfr's Report Date: AUG 06, 2007
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 07V356000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR
Potential Number of Units Affected: 7611
 
Not sure who makes it but the coil is made by Crane and the VR could be a Thunderheart as they make all the electronics for our bikes. A BDM tech at the factory tells me that the Compu-Fire is a good replacement unit though.

Also, our stators are only 32-35 amp not 42 as you posted. Check in the tech section and you'll find some great toubleshooting threads that a member from the factory wrote telling us how to troubleshoot the electronics.

:cheers:
Are you sure about the amperage Ray?:confused: My Service Manual for my 06, universal for the electrical, states the system is 40amps. Wouldn't that mean the stator has to be rated at 40?
 

Raywood

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Are you sure about the amperage Ray?:confused: My Service Manual for my 06, universal for the electrical, states the system is 40amps. Wouldn't that mean the stator has to be rated at 40?
Yeah but I was told by the factory that later they found out from the manufacturer of the stator/vr that it was a standard system. Now if you look at the new bikes they only state a 35 amp system. Apparently they've tested the Compu-fire unit and it supports our system and makes a great replacement if you ever find yourself dead on the side of the road.

:cheers:
 
This was a requested topic after the last post. BDM charging system, 40Amp or what?

I can not tell you why BDM originally listed the stock 2005 newer charging system as a 40Amp system, they were doing it before I got there. One assumption is that that is the size of circuit breaker (40amp) that was installed on the bike vs a 32amp CB from previous years.

I can tell you the system used on 2005 and newer is actually rated at 35Amps from the supplier. Average hi we saw was about 30amps however the system is capable of supplying 35amps. BDM is selling a newly designed voltage regulator now, I can not tell you the part number or cost on it but it looks just like the old one but has a red stripe on the B+ wire. It looks the same from the outside but let me assure you that is where the similarities end. It has gone thru extensive testing before it was ever released, I left before too many of them hit the fields so I can not speak on the reliability numbers coming back from the field.

Compufire does make a nice regulator (they have been updated since recalls several years back), it is the 32amp black finned regulator. It has been installed on some BDMs with a stock rotor/stator and performed well however it was not a large sample lot and not a lot of miles on them. Based on the output I have seen from the stock BDM system you should be fine with these regulators and I am pretty sure I have seen a lot in here running them as well, I will caution that they are only rated at 32 amps and the BDM system can theoretically put out 35amps, use your own judgment and request information from those on this site that may be running them. You would run into issues at ~3300 RPM or higher, at that point the BDM system could put out more than 32 amps.


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jbarrettb

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Follow up... I put the BGM regulator/rectifier on the Bike, I didn't mount it just hoked it up and grounded it. This is the one I say is bad (red tracer B+). Sure enough bleeding 11+vdc to ground...both legs. Hooked up a 32 amp H-D reg/rect and started her up voltage 9.84vdc what the hell?!? Turns out the starter pinion gear was hanging on the ring gear at times sustaining the starter draw...a quick rev and it would retract. Once that was remedied, the system was pushing 14vdc to the somewhat "stressed" battery. The battery is now being completely recharged. For the time being the bike has a 32 amp Drag Spec chrome reg/rect on it. I want to replace that with the Compufire unit suggested above.
Anyone have a part number or know a supplier for the thing?

JB
 
Follow up... I put the BGM regulator/rectifier on the Bike, I didn't mount it just hoked it up and grounded it. This is the one I say is bad (red tracer B+). Sure enough bleeding 11+vdc to ground...both legs. Hooked up a 32 amp H-D reg/rect and started her up voltage 9.84vdc what the hell?!? Turns out the starter pinion gear was hanging on the ring gear at times sustaining the starter draw...a quick rev and it would retract. Once that was remedied, the system was pushing 14vdc to the somewhat "stressed" battery. The battery is now being completely recharged. For the time being the bike has a 32 amp Drag Spec chrome reg/rect on it. I want to replace that with the Compufire unit suggested above.
Anyone have a part number or know a supplier for the thing?

JB
Sweet JB that ones going in the TS section of my manual right now. Thanks for the follow up. Do a search here there are a couple of guys who ugraded and are selling their Compufire modules.
 
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