Fault Code Ingition

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Sven

Well-Known Member
Can not figure how the tach lights up, about the first 4 or 5 lights come on when the starter is turning with the yellow tach single wire going to it cut off.
Crank sensor puts out a pulse wave. Better known as a square wave made by the magnetic pickup and out the one wire it goes to the black box to convert a wave form into a number the black box can understand. What is with this cutting of wire? Anyway, is this a factory wire or who's? No matter. Lets take a guess at that cut wire.

Bike starts, lets assume. Are we looking for a tach signal? Lets eliminate that one cut wire to find out.
1. Key on: Does it have 12v to it? Then it is not a tach signal.
2. Key on: Will it pulse if the starter turns the engine to make a square wave to be measured with an ohm meter at the 10v scale or less. We want an analog meter with a needle so we can see a swing happen at 10v or less, or say at the 2000m scale.
3. Key on: If not hot with 12v, but can pulse with the turn of the engine, watt are the odds it came from the black box with the converted number to send to the tach wire. Make sense?
 

gbspear

Member
Just save you a lot of time and change to a Wire Plus System. After many months of Troubleshooting problems like your having, Now no problem and riding without thinking about, if something is going to cause it to shutdown.
 

Rottweiler

Well-Known Member
Looking for a good used tach ring.

Looking at the prints for a 2007 and 2004. The Annuciator / Tach ring looks the same. Does anyone know for sure. Found a 2007 speedo for sale. Might buy it and steal the tach ring for my bike? Thanks
 

BigDogBro1

Made in the USA
Yes had the tank off and the tach ring out wires are good to tach. Also the black ground wire from tach read to ground with speedo mounted on the bike. Ground goes away by lifting speedo off mounting bracket. The ring is shorted to the speedo cone. Can not figure how the tach lights up, about the first 4 or 5 lights come on when the starter is turning with the yellow tach single wire going to it cut off. The turn signals, oil and neutral lights all work ok. Can not think of any connection with the speedo or tach when the starter is turning. WTF
I doubt the tach ring should be shorted GROUND to the housing..intentionally. The tach ring connector should have the three tach wires to it....signal/power/ground. The two grounds will eventually be connected at some point back to the battery(-) terminal. The ANNUNCIATOR PCB RING shouldn't electrically have any contact to the housing in my opinion. Normally in a digital product the ground connection is done via a wire directly back to the digital power & signal source. It's done that way to eliminate electrical signal noise compared to when using a common chassis type ground, which is fine for lightbulbs.

When lifting speedo off mounting bracket and try to start engine to see if the first 4 or 5 lights come on when the starter is turning WITH the yellow tach wire connected.

Let me know the results before next move.

Please don't Wire+ the bike.
 
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gabe

Active Member
Electrical stuff goes way over my head, but someone threw out wire plus. IF it gets to that (I hope it doesn't) check into the newer RIP option before you pull the trigger on Wire Plus.
 

Rottweiler

Well-Known Member
Curtis, YOU THE MAN KaptinAmerika

Update I sent my tach ring to Curtis to check out. He found two loose solder joints.
Had a chance to work on the dog. solder the yellow tach wire back on and installed the tach ring. Bike started right up, took it for about 75 mile ride everything good so far.

BIG THANKS TO CURTIS
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
Curtis, YOU THE MAN KaptinAmerika

Update I sent my tach ring to Curtis to check out. He found two loose solder joints.
Had a chance to work on the dog. solder the yellow tach wire back on and installed the tach ring. Bike started right up, took it for about 75 mile ride everything good so far.

BIG THANKS TO CURTIS
:2thumbs: :cheers:
 
Turn key ...nothing .turn key off ..right turn signal indicator stays on ...disconnect Battery..of course neg first ..wait ten minutes turn key on then off to try and reset ehc ...reconnect same ...now if I do not connect red positive led from module .smaller wire not main lead dash flashes then stays on but now oil light on and all light work including signals only indicator on is oil light ...hit run fires....so I went ahead and toggle switched the lead ..so if I turn key to on position then hit toggle to on..now everything works except oil light on ??? Help please..yes new battery check volts ....thank
 

Mr. Wright

Knows some things
Turn key ...nothing .turn key off ..right turn signal indicator stays on ...disconnect Battery..of course neg first ..wait ten minutes turn key on then off to try and reset ehc ...reconnect same ...now if I do not connect red positive led from module .smaller wire not main lead dash flashes then stays on but now oil light on and all light work including signals only indicator on is oil light ...hit run fires....so I went ahead and toggle switched the lead ..so if I turn key to on position then hit toggle to on..now everything works except oil light on ??? Help please..yes new battery check volts ....thank
What battery did you put in it, a shorted cell will cause that. Just because it's new, doesn't mean it is good.
 

Mikeinjersey

Well-Known Member
I'm having difficulty understanding your failure description. If the battery has been tested GOOD as Mr Wright suggested it would seem (because your symptom's change when you disconnect and reconnect the battery) your problem lies in the connections. Triple check your grounds . Did you have the problems before you replaced the battery?
I'm not being snarky but is your engine running when the oil light is lit?
 
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