EHC replacement

[Axel]

Hi Curtis,

Thanks for the info. This is good to read (from my side...) I was not sure if my end test of the EHCs is good enough. I test the starter solenoid output of every EHC before and after potting with a 20 Ampere load for minimum 20 seconds. The current should not drop below 19 Ampere within this time. I think, this is already a bit out of the "real world" in my opinion.

By the way, do you know the power consumption of the Dacota digital speedo? I have one client, who had problems with his ignition, what fails for seconds when he drives faster than 150 km/h with 3000 rpm for more than 1 hour. His speedo fails also in this time, what indicate that one of the internal fuses, what is responsible for speedo, ignition and tag light limit the current for a moment. This effect is not happen when he drives a bit slower below 150 km/h. Beside of the question if a japanese plastic racer would be the better option for him, I would like to know, if the power consumption of the Dacota speedo is higher compare to the original one. I assume that the internal fuse limit the current at higher rpm and think about to increase it in the next EHC´s from 1,6 Ampere to 2,5 Ampere. However, these outputs need usually 1 Ampere and I´m a bit afraid to set the fuse value to a more than a double value, cause the harness cables to the speedo and tag light are not very thick...

All the best!
Axel

 

[francoblay1]

Hi Curtis,
I have one client, who had problems with his ignition, what fails for seconds when he drives faster than 150 km/h with 3000 rpm for more than 1 hour. His speedo fails also in this time, what indicate that one of the internal fuses, what is responsible for speedo, ignition and tag light limit the current for a moment.
Axel

on a Big Dog????

 

[Axel]

Hi Franco,

He told it to me. I never tried it out with my bike. I´m to old for putting my cock on the table ... ;-)

All the best!
Axel

 

[TapioK]

Hi Franco,

He told it to me. I never tried it out with my bike. I´m to old for putting my cock on the table ... ;-)

All the best!
Axel

K9 and Chopper do 90mph rather nicely on Highway! What is the problem? On curves K9 becomes a bit wobbly on 90 and above, maybe since it's longer than Choppa. Or my neck bearings are just bit too lose. Only retired ppl have time to go long distances at 55mph or don't get bored on highways

 

[BWG56]

K9 and Chopper do 90mph rather nicely on Highway! What is the problem? On curves K9 becomes a bit wobbly on 90 and above, maybe since it's longer than Choppa. Or my neck bearings are just bit too lose. Only retired ppl have time to go long distances at 55mph or don't get bored on highways

Watch it there Mister, some of us like to smell the roses

 

[TapioK]

Watch it there Mister, some of us like to smell the roses

There are plenty of things I like to smell! Not always on boring highway heading to places though.

 

[SKOGDOG]

K9 and Chopper do 90mph rather nicely on Highway! What is the problem? On curves K9 becomes a bit wobbly on 90 and above, maybe since it's longer than Choppa. Or my neck bearings are just bit too lose. Only retired ppl have time to go long distances at 55mph or don't get bored on highways

Whaddya mean?? Blacktopper and I are retired and we cruise at 83-84 mph routinely, altho I guess 150 kph is 92 or 93 mph.

 

[francoblay1]

K9 and Chopper do 90mph rather nicely on Highway! What is the problem? On curves K9 becomes a bit wobbly on 90 and above, maybe since it's longer than Choppa. Or my neck bearings are just bit too lose. Only retired ppl have time to go long distances at 55mph or don't get bored on highways

I´ve done over 90 miles several times no problem... all I am saying is the RPM is quite higher than 3k @ 90 + Miles/h.

This guy´s bike @ 5500 rpm on 6th gear.... must be a rocket!!

 

[TapioK]

I´ve done over 90 miles several times no problem... all I am saying is the RPM is quite higher than 3k @ 90 + Miles/h.

This guy´s bike @ 5500 rpm on 6th gear.... must be a rocket!!

5500, that is pretty close to the red line? Don't remember and never pay attention to tachy... I think I remember seeing yellow light when speed is around 120. That is too much speed for K9, not Relaxing anymore and I don't think our engines take that for any longer periods, heck I've been told I'm lucky if my S&S takes 85-90 for 4 hours without breaking.
Well, my engine is in a shop actually so maybe they are not as strong as I thought.

 

[francoblay1]

Why so fast what's the rush? I ride for enjoyment not to see how fast I can get someplace, also this thread is about ehc replacement nothing to do with speed so let's stick to th the topic if you wana talk about speed start a new thread.

 

[Axel]

Hi Kevin,

Yes, it´s a bit away from my question but funny anyway...

Btw, I agree absolute with your statement "riding for enjoyment" (whatever it mean for individuals...)

All the best!
Axel

 

[Axel]

Just for info: We have found the issue after some measurements, changing the EHC and the ignition. It was a defect lithium battery bmu in the bike what had switched off when higher engine rpm had result in higher charge currents, following that the generator was hanging almost without load at the bike. A new battery solved the problem. It´s funny, what could happen sometimes...

Btw, since now I have increase the fuse in the EHC to the ignition to 2,5 Ampere, cause the replaced ignition had used almost 1,5 Ampere at higher engine speeds what might be a bit too close in my opinion to the 1,6 Ampere value what I have in the EHC, even when it is potted in epoxyd what works as heatsink cooler. I´ll ask the customer about the replaced ignition model and come back with the infos.

All the best!
Axel

 

[Axel]

Hi,

Just an update: I had a few discussions with Curtis. He convinced me to change the software of my EHC in the way, that the ignition is first off when turning on the ignition key and only a press at the "Engine" button will activate the ignition. The starter button is disabled as long as the ignition is off. The ignition will stay in the off condition, when switching off instead of switching on again after 3 seconds. The new option is more similar to the original EHC. However, you can adjust the settings to the older (...and in my opinion a bit faster) option, what switches on the ignition after turning on the key if you choose the "left" button in the setting no. 7.

Curtis was so kind and had corrected my new manual, what already have implemented the new function. I attach it. The EHC with the software update will be available in about 2-3 weeks when I have tested it in my bike (if the weather will allow to ride...)

All the best!
Axel

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Hi,

Just an update: I had a few discussions with Curtis. He convinced me to change the software of my EHC in the way, that the ignition is first off when turning on the ignition key and only a press at the "Engine" button will activate the ignition. The starter button is disabled as long as the ignition is off. The ignition will stay in the off condition, when switching off instead of switching on again after 3 seconds. The new option is more similar to the original EHC. However, you can adjust the settings to the older (...and in my opinion a bit faster) option, what switches on the ignition after turning on the key if you choose the "left" button in the setting no. 7.

Curtis was so kind and had corrected my new manual, what already have implemented the new function. I attach it. The EHC with the software update will be available in about 2-3 weeks when I have tested it in my bike (if the weather will allow to ride...)

All the best!
Axel

Very nice, axle. I think the original function of the EHC is nice. OFF until you hit run.


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[Kobi]

Axel, I am having trouble understanding exactly what changes you made and why. The Stop/Start mode changed now is Ignition mode? I assume you now control the ignition system with this function and not the Start button?

 

[Matheny 514]

Hi,

Just an update: I had a few discussions with Curtis. He convinced me to change the software of my EHC in the way, that the ignition is first off when turning on the ignition key and only a press at the "Engine" button will activate the ignition. The starter button is disabled as long as the ignition is off. The ignition will stay in the off condition, when switching off instead of switching on again after 3 seconds. The new option is more similar to the original EHC. However, you can adjust the settings to the older (...and in my opinion a bit faster) option, what switches on the ignition after turning on the key if you choose the "left" button in the setting no. 7.

Curtis was so kind and had corrected my new manual, what already have implemented the new function. I attach it. The EHC with the software update will be available in about 2-3 weeks when I have tested it in my bike (if the weather will allow to ride...)

All the best!
Axel

Very cool,

 

[Axel]

Hi Kurt,

Yes, my describtions are often difficult to understand due to my lousy english ;-)

The new function works in the way, that you´ll need to press the "Engine On" button in order to switch on the ignition after turning on the key switch. The button press enables also the "start" button. You´ll only be able to start the engine AFTER the press on the "Engine On" button.

The older software switches on the ignition and allow to use the start button just by turning the key switch on.

I have wrote in the manual how to switch between the 2 modes, depending of your personal taste. I hope it helps.

All the best!
Axel

 

[Kobi]

Axel,
What was the issue that made you change your thinking on the programming?

 

[Axel]

Hi Kurt,

The older software switches on the ignition when the key is be turned on. A press on the "Engine" button has switched off the ignition for 2 seconds, before it was switched on again. Curtis told me that it makes sense to let the ignition in the off position when the "Engine" button was pressed and keep it off until the next press on the button. It´s just in case if somebody have trouble with his bike whille riding. The old software will switch the ignition on again after 2 seconds, what might result in trouble in this case. However, I haven´t had a similar situation before but Curtis had some clients, who asked for this function. So, I have implemented it and it is more similar to the software of the original box.

However, it´s not a big change in my opinion and I have implemented the old software in the box as well. So, everybody can choose his personal setting. For myself I prefer the older version, what is faster for me, but I understant that the new setting is a bit more save in a few situations.

Have fun !

All the best!
Axel

 

[PROFLYER]

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