250 - 300 conversion

Any techs on here able to tell me exactly what parts I would need to get to swap the rear to a 300mm on my chopper? There's a guy selling a rear rim that matches my set, but wider for the bigger tire off a k-9 that's being parted out, and I told him I would need the swingarm and axle. I'm guessing the inner primaries are different offsets, and rear fender right? Anything else?
 

toodie

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Do a search "300 tire conversion" sounds like it would be cheaper to buy a bike with a 300 tire
 

jimizee028

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Do a search "300 tire conversion" sounds like it would be cheaper to buy a bike with a 300 tire
What he said......enjoy your bike ...still still for a moment .....become one with.....learn more about these bikes......
 

Moespeeds

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I researched it for mine. If you switch to a chain and a sprotor you might pull it off, but would not be able to center the tire on the backbone. For parts you'll need a new rear fender and space out the struts, sprocket conversion, sprotor. I've got a new, unmounted 300 rear tire here, and it measures 11.5" edge to edge. Measure inside your swingarm, and then figure out what you need for the chain, then figure out where your wheel center will fall. On a LSD you will be stuck between the swingarm and the tire, and that is going to determine where your wheel center falls. Not much room to adjust it. You could call Daytec and get a swingarm for a 300, change the trans mount to a RSD, and go that route. It would save you a lot of headache and custom fitting but will cost big bucks.
 
That's the thing. If I have a k-9 at my disposal for parts, and can get them at the right price all I should have to do is swap parts, I just need to know if I'm getting the correct stuff, or if I need more than I'm thinking.
 

Moespeeds

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You need more than you're thinking. The K9 is RSD, the Chopper is LSD. You will have issues lining up the back wheel with centerline. The biggest problem is that you kinda have to get the parts first, and then make them work. I'd start by calling Daytec or Rolling Thunder depending on what frame you have. The swingarm is the critical component and if need be, you cannot easily modify the existing swingarm. If you can get a K9 swingarm cheap, it can't hurt to just buy it and see if it fits up. Next step would be to change the transmission mount to RSD, whether by cutting off the old one or some type of adapter. Now you have to figure out how to run the belt or chain, since the pillars at the back of the chopper frame are a little different than the K9 frame. Before you do any of this, get a solid width measurement on a K9 wheel, both at the hub and overall tire width, and see if you can make it fit in your existing swingarm. Most likely you'll need a sprotor and chain. Even if the tire is offset a little, it will ride ok. Switching to an open primary will ease your pain a bit as it's easier to offset. They told me I couldn't fit a 180 on my Yamaha but I did, it's just a matter of making the space and getting that tire as close to center as possible. I'll tell you what. I have a chopper frame sitting here and a K9 wheel getting a tire right now. When I get some time this afternoon I'll roll that wheel in there and see how it looks.
 

Moespeeds

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So you have a newer chopper, I assumed it was an older model. Will the swingarm from a K9 bolt right up? My putting the wheel in a LSD chopper frame will do you no good, the RSD setup is totally different. So back to the start, first step is getting the wheel in the swingarm and centered on the backbone, then from there you figure out your offsets. You'll need a hub spacer to get the sprocket/chain out clear of the tire, then an appropriate offset drive sprocket to line up with the chain. I'll get you a measurement on the wheel, but to do this you will need the wheel and tire first.
 
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O.K. Thanks Moe. I really do think that the swingarms are interchangeable, just not 100% sure, ya know? I'd be willing to buy the back half of this dude's bike, I'm mostely wondering if it would be just fab stuff from there or if I needed to do something as far as changing offsets on the inner primary or something.Whatcha' think? I don't know much about that, but I own a custom paint and fab shop, so I can handle a little modification, that doesn't bother me at all. You're 'da man. Thanks!
 

RubWhore

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Yu need the primary to cause a 250 has a 1/2 inch offset other than the obvious stuff like struts and fender its duable otherwize its all the same,it wont look like a K9 lesson you change the side covers to,if you can get the hole bike Id try and by it less the motor
and move everything over.Ive done it a bunch of times as its easyer than trying to piece together.
 
That's exactly one of the things I was tryin' to find out that I didn't know! The difference in offsets! Would you happen to know the offset of the k-9 incase I have to buy it seperate? I Asked him about the primary , if he still had it or not but he didn't say. We got to talking about too much at once I guess.
 

RubWhore

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K9 has no offset, thay dont even do an offest for a 330 as they just widen the trap door on the tranny and go to a skineer belt you can still use all the guts of the primary you just need the inner
 

Moespeeds

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If I were you I'd take the opportunity to toss the primary and transmission, and goto an open primary and standard RSD trans. It will save you some complication, especially if you have to start custom fitting stuff. If that swingarm bolts up, I think if you have access to a lathe you're good to go. Rub, what's the mount for a DSSC look like compared to a regular RSD? Are they the same?

When I do something like this, I usually just buy all the parts, then figure out what I gotta do to make them work. First task is to determine if you can use the stock swingarm, hopefully I can get you the measurement today. Once you have a swingarm on there, center the wheel on the backbone and then the job is to make everything else work. I'm thinking if you stick with the stock swingarm at the least you'll have to offset that rear wheel a bit. If the K9 swingarm fits that's the way to go. Ditch the DSSC if you can.
 
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RubWhore

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The mount plates are different not saying you cant redrill holes and your rite if you can get rid of the DSSC that wood be the way to go cause then your unlimited to what you can do as well as primary selections
 

Five Five

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Moe & Rub .... I gotta hit you with some rep power ... just because you are both Bike builders and know what the hell your talking about .... you build em and ride em ....

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