anyone had this problem after adjusting there clutch??

[11bsoldier]

hey friends, i went through the how to, on how to adjust a clutch. the first time through i couldnt get the bike to move when i shifted through the gears, after some fooling around i got it to run almost like normal..Enter problem 1:when i have my clutch lever pulled in and the bike is in 1st it still wants to pull forward, no alot but on a level service it will try to inch forward, i can stop it by puttng a fot down without using the break, however this is not correct, any help there would be greatly appreciated. Problem number two, i cant tell if this is all in my head or what, but it seems now that when riding first and second are much shorter then they were before, and third gear seems bogged down at first like a lack of power, almost as if the bike was put into gear at to low a speed???. like i said both these little complications have arisen after attempting to adjust my clutch. any help would be greatly appreciated here guys im sitting here scratching my head :loony:

 

[Brew]

You might want to check your clutch hub nut. It might have come loose; many of us have had this problem including me. My scoot would slip in higher gears because of it and the scoot would also creep forward at stops and make it hard to find neutral at a stop. These are some of the symptoms...

 

[tommy666]

Definitely clutch hub nut. Had this happening for 2 weeks and finally got it fixed. No problems from there on out! Good luck!

 

[11bsoldier]

aha so i know what and where this clutch hub nut is, now how exactly does one go about fixing this?

 

[PurpleDog]

Improperly adjusted clutch will/does cause that condition as well.

 

[woodbutcher]

play with the 1/4 turn out on the activator rod a little before you tear into the primary for the clutch hub nut. make sure of what is adjustable before you start digging inside.

 

[Nomad2day]

play with the 1/4 turn out on the activator rod a little before you tear into the primary for the clutch hub nut. make sure of what is adjustable before you start digging inside.

I agree with this.. Been there done that...:2thumbs:

 

[11bsoldier]

ok thanks guys, i will let you know how it goes

 

[BadBrad]

I agree with this.. Been there done that...:2thumbs:

I third that motion. Just in case you do go into the primary, the clutch hub nut is reverse thread!!!!!!!!!! Clean the threads and use red locktite.

 

[Spineguy]

I'm having the same symptoms as when I'm stopped at a light holding clutch in, the bike wants to go forward. I can certainly hold it but this can't be good for the bike. Must mean the clutch is not fully engaging and doing damage through my shifts.

I read how I need to loosen the clutch hub nut, then adjust the rod using a Allen wrench. I can not get the clutch hub nut loose for the life of me. I know it's righty (clockwise)to loosen but I can not move it. I'm almost lifting the bike off the ground. I've slipped a couple of times and afraid I'm going to strip the nut.

Neutral is hard to find sitting still but easy when rolling.

I'm also screwed with the exhaust and the Allen wrench but I can't even get to that point.

Then I read how some folks are tightening to 100 to 200 lbs.

What should I do???

Am I doing damage to the transmission riding it? It only has 100 miles on my mastiff so far.

Thoughts please.

 

[woodbutcher]

you are combining 2 different operations. the clutch hub nut is in the primary. the nut you are trying to loosen is a right hand thread (righty tighty, about 30#'s. it's just a jamb nut) check out the thread on clutch adjustment, not the one on clutch hub tightening. there should not be any damage to the tranny because the clutch is just sliding. if you have access to a grinder, grind off some of the short end of the allen wrench so you have clearance for the pipes. take a deep breath and familiarize yourself with what you are trying to do, it will be alright.
also, this operation takes place behind the notched cap behind the exhaust on the right side just to make sure you are clear.

 

[PurpleDog]

I'm having the same symptoms as when I'm stopped at a light holding clutch in, the bike wants to go forward. I can certainly hold it but this can't be good for the bike. Must mean the clutch is not fully engaging and doing damage through my shifts.

I read how I need to loosen the clutch hub nut, then adjust the rod using a Allen wrench. I can not get the clutch hub nut loose for the life of me. I know it's righty (clockwise)to loosen but I can not move it. I'm almost lifting the bike off the ground. I've slipped a couple of times and afraid I'm going to strip the nut.

Neutral is hard to find sitting still but easy when rolling.

I'm also screwed with the exhaust and the Allen wrench but I can't even get to that point.

Then I read how some folks are tightening to 100 to 200 lbs.

What should I do???

Am I doing damage to the transmission riding it? It only has 100 miles on my mastiff so far.

Thoughts please.

Sounds like you are confused...

The Clutch hub nut that comes loose and left hand thread is what hold the clutch carrier on behind the primary. This is not the clutch adjuster nut that is used to adjust your clutch on the exhaust side which is not reverse threaded.
Creeping problem is mis-adjusted clutch (or could be clutch hub nut loose, but I don't recall have creep when my clutch hub nut came loose 5x before I started using an impact on it...)

 

[Spineguy]

Thanks guys! I'm certainly not anywhere near the primary.

The reason why I thought it was a reverse thread is I could not loosen the nut going left. Putting full weight on it. I can feel it press inward but not loosen at all.

I read the thread about steps

1. Loosen the clutch pull
2. Loosen the nut
3 tighten the Allen and then back off 1/4 inch.
4 re tighten the nut while holding the Allen steady


I'm just lost getting the damn thing loose...

Thoughts?

 

[Nomad2day]

Thanks guys! I'm certainly not anywhere near the primary.

The reason why I thought it was a reverse thread is I could not loosen the nut going left. Putting full weight on it. I can feel it press inward but not loosen at all.

I read the thread about steps

1. Loosen the clutch pull
2. Loosen the nut
3 tighten the Allen and then back off 1/4 inch.
4 re tighten the nut while holding the Allen steady


I'm just lost getting the damn thing loose...

Thoughts?

Put your 11/16th box end wrench on it and hit it with a hammer one or two times and it will break free. Then follow your steps.
I usually will run the allen wrench in a couple of times pretty tight to seat everything, back it off and then tighten till you feel tension and back it off a 1/4 turn. Adjust the clutch cable until the lever will hold a dime.
You probably feel the ball ramp giving when you are trying to loosen it.
The jam nut is standard so left to loosen.

On the primary side is the clutch nut which holds the clutch plates on that is left handed thread and you need a impact wrench to free it for the most part or is the easiest way to me.

 

[Spineguy]

Thanks! Any recommendation on how I can get an Allen wrench to fit in without having to take off exhaust? I don't have access (without buying one) of a grinder as suggested...

Thanks!

 

[Brew]

You might have to cut the allen wrench to get in there or just remove the exhaust:

 

[Spineguy]

ok i figured out the allen wrench and with use of hammer got the nut loose. Followed instructions to the letter and good new bad news....

the problem of finding neutral is FIXED... even with engine off, goes into just fine...

still have a problem with the bike lurching when running, holding in clutch all the way...

(I can tell this by trying to start the bike in gear with clutch in... bike lurches forward.)

is this normal? I did the adjustments three times trying to feel the resistance in the allen wrench then backing off 1/4 inch. then tightening the 11/16 while holding allen steady.

maybe this is normal and wont hurt the bike but gotta believe when the clutch is fully engaged, it should be clear of everything...

ideas?

 

[Brew]

You may need to play with the adjustment to get it right. Backing it off a 1/4 is a good starting point. Try playing with the adjustment try backing it off a little more than 1/4. See if that helps! You may just need to find the sweet spot. If trying the adjustments dont help then you may need to open up the primary and check things in there such as the clutch hub nut for being loose. If not that then check the clutch dome hight and clutch pack wear limit...

 

[Nukeranger]

Did you have an issue before you decided to make an adjustment? Just asking because a 2008 shouldn't be out of adjustment yet!

 

[Spineguy]

I could tell that a stop light the bike would want to move forward when clutch is in. It doesn't bother me cause it is easy to hold back but more worried about wearing things out as the clutch is not fully engaging.