Bypassing your EHC

cdogg556

Guru
Why cut the power from the EHC? Why not just run another wire (as you did) from Battery (via key switch) direct to the IM? same result, isn't?
That I am not sure of, don't know if back feeding the ehc would screw it up or not? Don't seem like a good idea to me, just as easy to just cut the wire, fold the ech side back, and feed the ignition with your new power source! Done!upload_2015-9-1_4-39-5.jpeg
 

Jwooky

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You dont have to cut the wire to the EHC to accomplish this. In fact, you could leave the key switch too, and just run a hot wire to the ignition and hide a toggle switch under the seat for example for an "emergency".
 

cdogg556

Guru
You dont have to cut the wire to the EHC to accomplish this. In fact, you could leave the key switch too, and just run a hot wire to the ignition and hide a toggle switch under the seat for example for an "emergency".
Are you sure it won't screw with the ehc? I'm not 100% sure so didn't want to chance it!
 

Th3InfamousI

Administrator
Staff member
You dont have to cut the wire to the EHC to accomplish this. In fact, you could leave the key switch too, and just run a hot wire to the ignition and hide a toggle switch under the seat for example for an "emergency".
Yep that's what I would do simple and quick. Splice in a +12v to the ignition power wire from the EHC.
Are you sure it won't screw with the ehc? I'm not 100% sure so didn't want to chance it!
Shouldn't backfeed it's +12v not a ground. Also if on toggle switch you would only use it in an emergency situation so your EHC is prob gone anyways so who cares at that point?. This way your not turning your key and flipping the switch every time you start it. Only in the event the EHC craps the bed you have your backup toggle and slam button.



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francoblay1

The Spaniard
Yep that's what I would do simple and quick. Splice in a +12v to the ignition power wire from the EHC.

Shouldn't backfeed it's +12v not a ground. Also if on toggle switch you would only use it in an emergency situation so your EHC is prob gone anyways so who cares at that point?. This way your not turning your key and flipping the switch every time you start it. Only in the event the EHC craps the bed you have your backup toggle and slam button.



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Now!!!! That´s the way I was also visioning it! Thank you!
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Th3InfamousI

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Now!!!! That´s the way I was also visioning it! Thank you!
:cheers:
His way is not wrong, there's nothing wrong with doing it the way he did. Personally I just wouldn't like flipping toggle and key every time. But I will say it's a decent anti-theft deterrent have to find that toggle first!

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francoblay1

The Spaniard
His way is not wrong, there's nothing wrong with doing it the way he did. Personally I just wouldn't like flipping toggle and key every time. But I will say it's a decent anti-theft deterrent have to find that toggle first!

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The thing is that I don´t really understand how John wired everything.... and now you are saying he will need to flip the toggle every time... this is confusing me even more! lol.

Never mind, if I do it I will do it the "easy" way which makes more sense to me.

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Th3InfamousI

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The thing is that I don´t really understand how John wired everything.... and now you are saying he will need to flip the toggle every time... this is confusing me even more! lol.

Never mind, if I do it I will do it the "easy" way which makes more sense to me.

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Too much sand between the ears?

In a nutshell if I am following correctly he is bypassing +12v from EHC to ign box. He has extra wires running from toggle to EHC. The keyswitch still function and turns on ignition while toggle turns on Speedo lights, EHC

So like I said he will always have to flip toggle (to turn on ehc, lights, Speedo, etc) and turn key to turn on ign box.



I actually had this all typed and backwards. If I was to do it this way leave key to turn on EHC and use toggle for ignition box. Would have been less work.



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BadDawg Bill

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If he didn't cut the positive feed from the EHC and just ran a hot wire to the ign switch it wouldn't work if the EHC went bad because the EHC would blow the fuse to the hot wire as soon as he flipped the toggle switch on. It might not happen in every case but why take a chance? All he did is insure the ign would have power if the EHC goes down and that would be enough to get home (in the daylight).
 

BadDawg Bill

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If he didn't cut the positive feed from the EHC and just ran a hot wire to the ign switch it wouldn't work if the EHC went bad because the EHC would blow the fuse to the hot wire as soon as he flipped the toggle switch on. It might not happen in every case but why take a chance? All he did is insure the ign would have power if the EHC goes down and that would be enough to get home (in the daylight).
I had to do that to my bike and put on a slam button to get it to run after the WP install. I finally gave up and just re-wired the whole thing "old School" and haven't had any problems since. The main problem was my lights/turn signals would stop working and the cops would stop me. If I left the bike off for awhile they would come back on. After a few drinks on a Sunday run you don't need that and one night it took me 4 hrs to go 10 miles because of the lights going out.
 

cdogg556

Guru
Too much sand between the ears?

In a nutshell if I am following correctly he is bypassing +12v from EHC to ign box. He has extra wires running from toggle to EHC. The keyswitch still function and turns on ignition while toggle turns on Speedo lights, EHC

So like I said he will always have to flip toggle (to turn on ehc, lights, Speedo, etc) and turn key to turn on ign box.



I actually had this all typed and backwards. If I was to do it this way leave key to turn on EHC and use toggle for ignition box. Would have been less work.

You right Eric, that's what I did, I did it the other way on my bulldog but the only problem is that anyone can start the bike when they flip the switch, this way nobody can steel the bike!

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Your right Eric, butIf you do it the other way Anyone can flip the switch and steal your bike, this way you have to have a key to start the bike!
 

Jwooky

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If he didn't cut the positive feed from the EHC and just ran a hot wire to the ign switch it wouldn't work if the EHC went bad because the EHC would blow the fuse to the hot wire as soon as he flipped the toggle switch on. It might not happen in every case but why take a chance? All he did is insure the ign would have power if the EHC goes down and that would be enough to get home (in the daylight).
Only way that could happen is if the EHC were to internally short the run circuit to ground and the internal short would be capable of carrying more than the 15a fuse.

Both are highly unlikely IMHO.

If all that occurred in one night just give up and go home, lol
 

cdogg556

Guru
Yep that's what I would do simple and quick. Splice in a +12v to the ignition power wire from the EHC.

Shouldn't backfeed it's +12v not a ground. Also if on toggle switch you would only use it in an emergency situation so your EHC is prob gone anyways so who cares at that point?. This way your not turning your key and flipping the switch every time you start it. Only in the event the EHC craps the bed you have your backup toggle and slam button.



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