My dog is half dead

[BIgDOGROB]

Sup guys and gals with out rambling on to much here is my problem i was scheduled to go on a ride to the crew fest with tommy lee yesterday well the day before the ride Sunday of course i tried to start my 2005 big dog ridge back and it sounded like a $30000 lawn mower pulled my plugs out and check for spark the front cylinder was not firring so with the plugs out of the bike i switched the wires to see if i had a bad wire or plug still no spark on front cylinder so i took the blue and the yellow wire on my coil and switched them now no spark to the rear cylinder so i put them back the way they should be so i am thinking my coil is good the 1 shop i found open on Sunday told me coil was bad just so happing he had one that would work for $140.00 o and you cant bring it back if its not the problem ya right did not believe him
so i figured i would wait tell my local big dog shop in salt lake city UT to open sign on door said open 9-5 Monday thru Saturday well got up early the day of the show and went to the big dog shop to have them test it well after sitting around and nobody shows up Monday i was like ya go figure so i went buy the Harley shop and had them test it they said it was good so buy now it was getting close to the show so i broke out my 92 Yamaha v-max with 60000 miles on it had not been started in to years new battery and she fires right up and runs like a raped ape to bad the USA cant build a bike this dependable so i did make the show but my dog did not i cant afford to get raked over the coals buy my local big dog dealer there answer is always we can sell you a new bike ya like i would make that stupid mistake again so thats my story i got a $30000 lawn mower that will not cut grass please help:loony:

 

[barhopper]

I say sell it, ride your Jap bike and move on. Oh, by the way your bike is 4 yrs old and sometimes hotrods need some tender loving care.

 

[BIgDOGROB]

I say sell it, ride your Jap bike and move on. Oh, by the way your bike is 4 yrs old and sometimes hotrods need some tender loving care.

Igot to get it running first brotha:up:

o i do love my dog she just bites hard

 

[Fibersnake]

Does sound more like a coil based on the limited information.

If you wanted to, you could pull it off and do a resistance test across the coil to see if it up to par of not.

Easy fix and one you should be able to do yourself.

Let us know the outcome and hopefully you are up and riding very soon.

 

[jimizee028]

i say its the coil also...the most important thing is you got to go see vince,mick,tommy and nikki....i have the same meeting with the boyz on august 22nd.......

 

[Byrddogg]

I say sell it, ride your Jap bike and move on. Oh, by the way your bike is 4 yrs old and sometimes hotrods need some tender loving care.

:2thumbs:

 

[shovelcowboy]

I say sell it, ride your Jap bike and move on. Oh, by the way your bike is 4 yrs old and sometimes hotrods need some tender loving care.

Hey BB, No disrespect, but IS THIS GOOD ADVICE??!!

Ya ever tried to sell a NOT working bike and recover ANY of your money! And "Ride a Jap bike" (would you want to with Tommy Lee)??!! Pamela would probly NOT approve especially with him ridin' a Count Custom LONG Springer!

I feel for this guy. I'm from UT and I have been to SLC Rolling Thunder BDM many times. They seem like "stand-up guys" but I bet they are having tough times meeting payroll.
Too bad they weren't open.

AND just why shouldn't a 4 yr old bike not run like it should? I have an 11 yr old Harley and it does! And my 2004 custom with a 107 BDM motor just motors on like I was told - that motor is 'bullet - proof".

So, I think (and again, NO disrespect meant) this is BAD advice! Maybe it's the Beam talkin, Ya think?

Shovelcowboy

 

[BIgDOGROB]

Does sound more like a coil based on the limited information.

If you wanted to, you could pull it off and do a resistance test across the coil to see if it up to par of not.

Easy fix and one you should be able to do yourself.

Let us know the outcome and hopefully you are up and riding very soon.

Sup fiber snake i did figure out that my coil is good took of my tank and side covers to gain access to ignition module when i moved the wires around that goes up the back bone i got spark to the front cylinder so i figured i had a broken wire up in the back bone so i ran a new yellow wire from the ignition module to the plug that goes to the coil and bam started right up so i ordered that new section of the harness kinda worried tho wire was not on a bind or rubbing looks like it could have broke were big dog put the wire ties cant really tell until i get my new wires then i will cut in to the old won and see were my brake was i do appreciate the help guys
PS 92 Yamaha v-max is the real hotrod
but i still love my dog:lol:

 

[BIgDOGROB]

i say its the coil also...the most important thing is you got to go see vince,mick,tommy and nikki....i have the same meeting with the boyz on august 22nd.......

sup brotha i did make the show and it was great but godsmack stole the show peace

 

[jimizee028]

i do expect this to happen all over the nation,but smart of the crue to do this ..it will allow them to continue makin paychecks every summer by bringin in the youngens to these venues...i love the crue allways have but vince can no longer keep up with the songs,he either runs outta breathe or forgets the words or something cause its like he only sings 3/4 of the songs....but i allways enjoy the show takes me back to my youth......and i am happy to hear you got your shit together with the bike....allways sumthin huh????

 

[woodbutcher]

good to hear you found the problem. :2thumbs:

 

[BIgDOGROB]

DOWN AGAIN

Well i thought i found the problem but bike ran for a few days and then i lost the front cylinder again when i pulled off my tank and did a Little testing it seems the yellow wire going to my coil has no breaks or shorts good ready all the way back to the ignition module when i take a test light and check the wires coming from the module red wire light up blue wire light up and flashes when turned over but the yellow wire is lit up all the time does not flash so i have constant power to the yellow witch is the front cylinder so @ this point with out changing out my cam censer and my module and my ehc i do not know what to try next just do not have the $$$$$ to change them all out to find the problem Any suggestions peace

 

[bdmridgeback]

Well i thought i found the problem but bike ran for a few days and then i lost the front cylinder again when i pulled off my tank and did a Little testing it seems the yellow wire going to my coil has no breaks or shorts good ready all the way back to the ignition module when i take a test light and check the wires coming from the module red wire light up blue wire light up and flashes when turned over but the yellow wire is lit up all the time does not flash so i have constant power to the yellow witch is the front cylinder so @ this point with out changing out my cam censer and my module and my emc i do not know what to try next just do not have the $$$$$ to change them all out to find the problem Any suggestions peace

Based on this info here if it is correct, the ignition module itself is bad.

The crank sensor has nothing to do with the separate cylinders firing and the EHC has nothing to do with it either.

I am sure someone on the forum here has a perfectly good Stock Thunder-Heart ignition module that they will sell you for pennies they took out of their bike to install the programmable one.

But based on this info above, the ignition module is at fault.

 

[stlmikie]

I do have one here broham if you want one let me know.

 

[BIgDOGROB]

Based on this info here if it is correct, the ignition module itself is bad.

The crank sensor has nothing to do with the separate cylinders firing and the EHC has nothing to do with it either.

I am sure someone on the forum here has a perfectly good Stock Thunder-Heart ignition module that they will sell you for pennies they took out of their bike to install the programmable one.

But based on this info above, the ignition module is at fault.

bdmridgeback thanks for the help brotha so you say the ehc or the cam censer could not be the problem is it comen on the thunder heart ignitions to go bad and for the led lights on it to all flash normal as if it is working fine i know the one wire goes to the coil the other side of the module goes down to the cam censer right and usely when and if they go bad you get no spark @ all i have had a problem with my ehc in the past the mounting screws on the bottom both broke loose go figure and my EhC was not mounted tight every once in a wile i would go to start my bike and all i would get when i turn the key was the oil light no neutral light no head light bike would not turn over when i turned the key off oil light would stay on turn the key back on still no power so i would have to pull my seat off and wiggle ehc around and oil light would go out then when i turn my key back on good to go again problem only happened once in a wile i did use some rtv to keep the ehc from moving around just did that before all this problem started bigdog said they can test my ignition module but i would have to bring in the bike well @ this point i do not have a trailer bike is broke down @ my work and my wallet is empty so i am in a world of Hertz right now peace and thanks for the help:angry:

 

[stlmikie]

You say that if you wiggled the ehc that it would then start. Have you filled the connectors up with the dielectric grease? If you haven't you may want to go ahead and do that. It is cheap and may save you head aches in the future. Just sayn. I hope you get this stuff figured out man.

bdmridgeback thanks for the help brotha so you say the ehc or the cam censer could not be the problem is it comen on the thunder heart ignitions to go bad and for the led lights on it to all flash normal as if it is working fine i know the one wire goes to the coil the other side of the module goes down to the cam censer right and usely when and if they go bad you get no spark @ all i have had a problem with my ehc in the past the mounting screws on the bottom both broke loose go figure and my EhC was not mounted tight every once in a wile i would go to start my bike and all i would get when i turn the key was the oil light no neutral light no head light bike would not turn over when i turned the key off oil light would stay on turn the key back on still no power so i would have to pull my seat off and wiggle ehc around and oil light would go out then when i turn my key back on good to go again problem only happened once in a wile i did use some rtv to keep the ehc from moving around just did that before all this problem started bigdog said they can test my ignition module but i would have to bring in the bike well @ this point i do not have a trailer bike is broke down @ my work and my wallet is empty so i am in a world of Hertz right now peace and thanks for the help:angry:

 

[BIgDOGROB]

You say that if you wiggled the ehc that it would then start. Have you filled the connectors up with the dielectric grease? If you haven't you may want to go ahead and do that. It is cheap and may save you head aches in the future. Just sayn. I hope you get this stuff figured out man.

stimikie sup brotha as i was saying i did have the problem with the ehc coming loose and no i have not used dielectric grease it did not seem like it was the top cenecters that i had to wiggle to get the bike to started but like i was saying once i used some rtv to glue it down seemed like that problem was solved but now i have the new problem with no spark to front cylinder i finealy got a traler so i can get the bike home but still no $$$$$ to take it to the shop if i can get a ignition module and cam cencser i will swap them out see if it is the problem as soon as i get the $$$ up thanks for your help peace brotha.

 

[Raywood]

if i can get a ignition module and cam cencser i will swap them out see if it is the problem as soon as i get the $$$ up thanks for your help peace brotha.

Again, if your 05 is stock then it does not have a cam sensor! None of the 05 and newer have one. They all use a "Twin cam" style Crank sensor which is down by the altenator plug. All the new bikes don't even have a cam cover, it's a whole one piece cam chest.

I would take Jake up on his offer of a newer ignition module and see if that helps.

 

[lee]

I agree with Jake that it sounds like the ignition module. The crank sensor tells the ignition when to fire so if that was bad I suspect you would have no spark at all. The coil also seems ok because when you switched the wires the problem replicated in the other cylinder. If the wire itself wasn't the problem and the EHC isn't involved then it must be the module. Still seems odd that when you ran a new wire it worked for a while though - you sure you connected it up right? Also, call me an English wanker but fuck me your posts are hard to read with no full stops!!

 

[BIgDOGROB]

I do have one here broham if you want one let me know.

Hey brotha do you mind if i pm you stop