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bigdogtech01

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I would guess labor. I've seen shops now with signs in them stating "$95 per hour" for this.

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Wow $95, that's crazy. I will be charging close to $60 when I get the shop up and running in the next month or so.... I hope:D That is less than the other shops are charging in this area.:up: I can not imagine charging $95 an hr and expecting to have a lot of business:loony:
 

Raywood

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Wow $95, that's crazy. I will be charging close to $60 when I get the shop up and running in the next month or so.... I hope:D That is less than the other shops are charging in this area.:up: I can not imagine charging $95 an hr and expecting to have a lot of business:loony:
Right here at my local HD dealer!!! :eek:
 

Thumper

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Wow $95, that's crazy. I will be charging close to $60 when I get the shop up and running in the next month or so.... I hope:D That is less than the other shops are charging in this area.:up: I can not imagine charging $95 an hr and expecting to have a lot of business:loony:
With all the guppies out there that are afraid to damage their image status bikes, $95 in the NE is easily justifiable. Dont short change the price of experience

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Chopper117

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Is this what the tranny looks like behind the inner primary. Is this the bolt that can come loose in these models. What was your symtoms you where having when this happened. I get gear catching or grabbing will still have torque but sounds bad when shifting into 4th gear. I am going to look into the tranny and look at the shift forks. Thanks for your input and like to hear what you have done. thanks Mike
Mike,
The bike was actually on the Dyno at the shop when this happened. He said he could not get it to go into 1st, 2nd or 3rd. But before that happened I was having problems getting it into 2nd on high RPM's. So what they did was replace the gear assembly which only comes that way and reinstalled and put in the new Thrust washer that was on a service bulletin for a while. But it was 10 hours of labor at $85 an hour. Not cheap!
 

phatchopper300

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Mike,
The bike was actually on the Dyno at the shop when this happened. He said he could not get it to go into 1st, 2nd or 3rd. But before that happened I was having problems getting it into 2nd on high RPM's. So what they did was replace the gear assembly which only comes that way and reinstalled and put in the new Thrust washer that was on a service bulletin for a while. But it was 10 hours of labor at $85 an hour. Not cheap!
Gee ouch $$$!! I have no problems going into any gear up or down just a gear meshing or misalignment issue. Called Baker and explained he said the same thing bigdogtech01 said look at the shift forks and the poss. countershaft bolt. I will get into this weekend and see what I will find. Post later.:confused:
 

Chopper117

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Gee ouch $$$!! I have no problems going into any gear up or down just a gear meshing or misalignment issue. Called Baker and explained he said the same thing bigdogtech01 said look at the shift forks and the poss. countershaft bolt. I will get into this weekend and see what I will find. Post later.:confused:
Well thats what eventually happened to me was that the countershaft walked on me which explains how it got stripped. Maybe you can catch it before it gets to this point. :2thumbs:
 

bigdogtech01

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Mike,
The bike was actually on the Dyno at the shop when this happened. He said he could not get it to go into 1st, 2nd or 3rd. But before that happened I was having problems getting it into 2nd on high RPM's. So what they did was replace the gear assembly which only comes that way and reinstalled and put in the new Thrust washer that was on a service bulletin for a while. But it was 10 hours of labor at $85 an hour. Not cheap!
10 hrs is way to much, when I was with the dealer in Rochester, NY we would charge 6 hrs with the transmission in the bike, 10 wow sorry to say they took advantage of you:job:
Maybe my $60 an hour is too little as another member has stated......hummm.
 

phatchopper300

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Update -Thanks to bigdogtech01 has helped me find the problem -He recommended that I take a look at the countershaft bolt was (sb1090) backing out see the pics. This bolt is inbetween the innerprimary and the baker tranny on the left side of bike.This was the squeeling I had heard and the gear grabbing in third and above. I will keep moving ahead by getting the upgrade deep well washer and new bolt & seal. If you have the same year bike this might be an item you need to check if you have your primary outer and inner off. Kudos to bigdogtech01!!! Thanks Andrew!!!
 

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Update -Thanks to bigdogtech01 has helped me find the problem -He recommended that I take a look at the countershaft bolt was (sb1090) backing out see the pics. This bolt is inbetween the innerprimary and the baker tranny on the left side of bike.This was the squeeling I had heard and the gear grabbing in third and above. I will keep moving ahead by getting the upgrade deep well washer and new bolt & seal. If you have the same year bike this might be an item you need to check if you have your primary outer and inner off. Kudos to bigdogtech01!!! Thanks Andrew!!!
Oh man, now I am looking at the pictures just after I sent you the PM. Yeah it looks like you have lost some threads into the countershaft. If only the hole went deep enough into the shaft you might be able to save it by sending a good tap threw it to try cleaning the threads. But the hole bottoms out inside so this is not even an option. Sorry to say it but it looks like you may have to put a new countershaft assy. in:( Can you look into the end and see if the threads are all messed up? Inside the CS? That is not a cheap piece to buy, I want to say it is around $400 retail? Have to see if BDM or Baker has one in stock along with all the bearings, retainer clips and seals.
Give me a call today if you want.
 

phatchopper300

I just wanta ride
Oh man, now I am looking at the pictures just after I sent you the PM. Yeah it looks like you have lost some threads into the countershaft. If only the hole went deep enough into the shaft you might be able to save it by sending a good tap threw it to try cleaning the threads. But the hole bottoms out inside so this is not even an option. Sorry to say it but it looks like you may have to put a new countershaft assy. in:( Can you look into the end and see if the threads are all messed up? Inside the CS? That is not a cheap piece to buy, I want to say it is around $400 retail? Have to see if BDM or Baker has one in stock along with all the bearings, retainer clips and seals.
Give me a call today if you want.
Andrew(bigdogtech01) I took an 3/8 bolt(new) and tried the threads on the countershaft and had no problems seating the bolt and threading it into the countershaft all the way in. It was very solid and did not move at all when all the way in. I will take off the tranny cover and shift drum and inspect the shift forks and shift rod. I drained all the tranny fluid and no metal shavings so I will clean out if any in the tranny. I will call BD and order the countershaft bolt and couner sink washer and the seals for putting putting back the inner primary.
 

bigdogtech01

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Andrew(bigdogtech01) I took an 3/8 bolt(new) and tried the threads on the countershaft and had no problems seating the bolt and threading it into the countershaft all the way in. It was very solid and did not move at all when all the way in. I will take off the tranny cover and shift drum and inspect the shift forks and shift rod. I drained all the tranny fluid and no metal shavings so I will clean out if any in the tranny. I will call BD and order the countershaft bolt and couner sink washer and the seals for putting putting back the inner primary.
Good, sounds like you should be able to run the Countershaft then, thank God for that huh? You may need a trans. rebuild in the future, but for now, put it back together and run it..... after making sure the shift forks and rod are in good shape. Did you get that clutch hub shim yet that i sent you?
 

phatchopper300

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Good, sounds like you should be able to run the Countershaft then, thank God for that huh? You may need a trans. rebuild in the future, but for now, put it back together and run it..... after making sure the shift forks and rod are in good shape. Did you get that clutch hub shim yet that i sent you?
Yep got the shim- Thanks a bunch wow smaller than I thought. I will be calling a dealership on Tues. (most are closed Mondays) to order the countershaftbolt and deep well washer and seal. Can't order directly from BDM must be thru a dealership. Again will post with results.
Thanks again bigdogtech01(Andrew)!!!
 

KnotSo

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I believe our local BDM dlr is close to $100 per hour.

That is why they get almost a thousand bucks for the 10K svc.:bang:
 

phatchopper300

I just wanta ride
UPDATE: Got the parts yesterday and installed the new bolt, washer(updated) and seal. Torqued all bolts and redlock tight the clutch nut and all required bolts. Put everything back together. No bolts left over:lol: I turned the key and it started right up. I took it for a spin and worked like a dream. I even noticed no vibration. All gears shifted with ease. Thanks to everyone that had input to help me find the problem. It was bigdog01
(andrew) who told me to look at the countershaft bolt. There was a service bulletin in 06 for this, And sure enough thats what my problem was. No if the weather lets up for me to ride. :):):):):)
 

phatchopper300

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Andrew just want to make sure I understood correctly on where to put the shim for the mainshaft. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I got to thinking and wanted to make sure. Thanks

 

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phatchopper300

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Second update!! Have about 175 miles from the fix of the countershaft bolt. Every thing has been tight until today while I was almost home. I started to hear a sound that seems to be comming from the primary almost like the chain was hitting the primary. I hope it is not the counershaft. I olny does it in 5th and 6th. Before this all was great! Chit I guess I will have to tear it down again. Rcheck the tranny for bent forks or rod.:confused::confused::confused:
Any suggestions I did tighten up the chain. It only makes the noise some of the time not every time i shift into 5th or 6th. I guess its back to drawing board. :(
 
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