Horn Killswitch

Energy One
Not really if you think about it like this.
"The Battery Energy circuit is run into the diaphram of the horn and that Energy is converted and dispursed in the form of sound"! Most all electrical circuits while "Operating" are a direct short, that's what makes you horn sound.
If your horn switch is depressed, then the circuit is on/"closed" and the horn sounds and the circuit reads a short.
If the horn switch is not depressed, then the circuit is off/"open" and the horn should NOT sound, nor should the circuit read as a short.

Between Mr. Wizard and BadBrad I was learned this, because John Sachs said soo! :D:

j/k John :D

NOT Brad :eek:

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Hope this helps! :2thumbs:

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DRBarnhart

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That's what I understand our systems are. Ground based adapted from the airline industry. You basically short out a component to have it operate.
Not exactly...

According to the schematic the horn is connected directly to the battery negative. That would mean it turns on when you supply power by pressing the button. It's not ground switched as you suggest Ray.

If the bike works fine with the horn disconnected that would tell me the gray wire on the horn doesn't have any shorts to ground or the problem would be there all the time. So, the horn itself seems to be the culprit. :D

Dennis
 

BBChopper

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Holt shit, three pages on a funking horn!!:eek:
Kool polish off your Bird Finger and whip it out when in doubt!!!:2thumbs:
Hell I can yell “Hey Mother F***er!!” louder than that POS goes Beep Beep…:rolleyes:
 
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mobsta

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i was told these switches work by grounding them when depressing them.if i remember right i believe they call them momentary switches.maybe wrong been wrong before:lol:
 

DRBarnhart

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i was told these switches work by grounding them when depressing them.if i remember right i believe they call them momentary switches.maybe wrong been wrong before:lol:
Either the person that told you is incorrect or the 2003 schematic that BD supplied is incorrect. :rolleyes:

On the Big Dogs that use the newer EHC, components are turned when the switches supply a ground to the EHC which in turn supplies POWER to the component, like the headlamp or horn relay. But, the horn on the 2003 Big Dog doesn't work that way... :D

Dennis
 

waykool

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Yeh.... I pulled the tank over the weekend to see if any wires looked chafed of kinked. All appeared to look good so I re mounted the tank. Tried to disconnect the headlight so I could see if the horn would work with less amp draw but couldn’t get that bulb-retaining ring out. I guess I just need to go through it with an amp meter to see where im drawing all the amps. Won’t be able to get back to it till after the holidays. The horn worked in the car that I took it out of and it works on the bike. It just kills the engine if I honk it with the motor running.
 
the symbol in question ont the schematic is a Poly fuse otherwise known as a PTC. Think if it as a sold state fuse that will reset when fault is removed.
 

Gabriel

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The horn power comes through "J2" #7 of the EHC.
You could take the wire out of the plug, P2 is the plug, wire position is #7 (green) and hook it to J4 #2 (Grey) @ EHC and eliminate the EHC all together.
Just keep in mind that your switch on the bar is now handling the current from the horn.
The electronic circuit breaker will still be protecting the circuit, but it may be questionable if the horn switch/button will handle the 3.5 amps.
But you can temporarily hook a relay up to handle the load.
I'll draw that circuit for you if you decide to use a relay. 3.5 amps is not much and the switch will probably handle the load.
Hope this helps...
PS. it looks like a bad EHC ? I would wire a separate circuit for the horn if needed
 

BBChopper

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The horn power comes through "J2" #7 of the EHC.
You could take the wire out of the plug, P2 is the plug, wire position is #7 (green) and hook it to J4 #2 (Grey) @ EHC and eliminate the EHC all together.
Just keep in mind that your switch on the bar is now handling the current from the horn.
The electronic circuit breaker will still be protecting the circuit, but it may be questionable if the horn switch/button will handle the 3.5 amps.
But you can temporarily hook a relay up to handle the load.
I'll draw that circuit for you if you decide to use a relay. 3.5 amps is not much and the switch will probably handle the load.
Hope this helps...
PS. it looks like a bad EHC ? I would wire a separate circuit for the horn if needed
Damn Gabe that took some work, good job. :2thumbs:
To bad the Kool man is just a funkin myth, I thought I saw him once at Leesburg hauling azz the other way?:loony:
 

Eric

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you guys are just a damm jack of all trades aint cha,,,,, duct tape,, wire ties,,, tin foil... we do it but the book here.....:2thumbs: forgot the rubber bands....
 

Gabriel

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Thanks, it didn't take but a few minutes, but putting it in words so it makes sense took about ten minutes. I'm not sure it makes sense to everyone? If not I'll try again..
 

Raywood

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Damn Gabe that took some work, good job. :2thumbs:
To bad the Kool man is just a funkin myth, I thought I saw him once at Leesburg hauling azz the other way?:loony:
you guys are just a damm jack of all trades aint cha,,,,, duct tape,, wire ties,,, tin foil... we do it but the book here.....:2thumbs: forgot the rubber bands....
Thanks, it didn't take but a few minutes, but putting it in words so it makes sense took about ten minutes. I'm not sure it makes sense to everyone? If not I'll try again..
This is the best part of this site. Members helping others.

Thanks guys.

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waykool

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Thanks guys. I will look into this when I get a chance. Been out of state for the past week. You guys rock!
 
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