click click starter problems

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DRBarnhart

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Maybe the solenoid plunger is somehow getting physically bound up by the cover? Did you try a little (VERY little) grease on it? :confused:

Dennis
 

EastTxDog

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I thought about adding some grease, but was worried about adding grease to an electrical component.
The solenoid plunger is new (from the rebuild kit),
and it doesn't seem to be too tight of a fit.
I actually thought the plunger could be binding up due to being too much clearance.
 

DRBarnhart

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The reason I mentioned binding is because you're not affecting anything electrical when you loosen the cover screws. A light coat of grease in the cover indentation and/or the head of the plunger won't hurt anything. :)

If you pull off the cover and remove the plunger can you get the head of the plunger to stick in the cover indentation? (You shouldn't be able to...)

Dennis
 

EastTxDog

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I applied a light coat of Moly-Graph grease to the solenoid plunger,
and put the cover back on with normal tightness.
Wow - the engine turned over.
Tried it again - nothing.
I slightly loosened the cover bolts and the starter fired again.
I re-tightened the cover bolts - nothing.
 

EastTxDog

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it seems strange that I can turn the cover bolts,
and the starter will fire,
but then try again without touching the cover bolts,
and nothing.
???
 

EastTxDog

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also you asked will the plunger stick to the solenoid cover,
no it does not.
thanks for your time and assistance.
 

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I have had this same problem with mine. I took the solenoid plunger out, cleaned up the pitting, buttoned it back up and it started. Have tried about 10 times now and fired every time. Will be trying again when I get home. Hope it starts. It is really beginning to piss me off. A LOT! I'm afraid to ride it anywhere. Afraid it won't start when I have to leave.
 
I have tried all of these tips, & my starter still did not fire. Good battery & good cables.... but still not starting. I thought for sure my starter went out.
After taking my Pitt to the BDM dealer, they said a relay went out. It was under my dash (light blue in color) & costs approx. $7-9.

Maybe this tip can save someone from putting a new starter in when it is only a defective relay. Wish I would've checked this first before buying a new starter!
 

rufroggy

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I have had this same problem with mine. I took the solenoid plunger out, cleaned up the pitting, buttoned it back up and it started. Have tried about 10 times now and fired every time. Will be trying again when I get home. Hope it starts. It is really beginning to piss me off. A LOT! I'm afraid to ride it anywhere. Afraid it won't start when I have to leave.

I'm with you on this!
 

rufroggy

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OK..I'm done screwing with this damn thing. Goin to the shop. Start it up, drive the damn thing around get the fucker hot and drive home. Same click from the compression relief valves. Try to the start and 5th time started.. Pulled the solenoid cover, put it back together. No start.

Scared to get stranded. FYI. Will post when I get it taken care of..
 

Chopper Dave

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OK..I'm done screwing with this damn thing. Goin to the shop. Start it up, drive the damn thing around get the fucker hot and drive home. Same click from the compression relief valves. Try to the start and 5th time started.. Pulled the solenoid cover, put it back together. No start.

Scared to get stranded. FYI. Will post when I get it taken care of..
damn Chris....yeah I was wondering if you ever figured out what was going on with your scoot....
 

rufroggy

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damn Chris....yeah I was wondering if you ever figured out what was going on with your scoot....

I loosened the screws on the cover after the last post. VERY LOOSE. Started right up. Think I need to find a new plunger, spring, etc. It is the contacts on the plunger. Still taking it in but my bet is still on the solenoid...Stayed tuned..
 

Gas Man

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I loosened the screws on the cover after the last post. VERY LOOSE. Started right up. Think I need to find a new plunger, spring, etc. It is the contacts on the plunger. Still taking it in but my bet is still on the solenoid...Stayed tuned..
I hear ya and hate to see you say it... on the fear of stranded. Hopefully they find it and its something simple... put on a few miles and restore your faith for lack of better words.... let us know.
 

rufroggy

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UPDATE:

New EHC and a new $120.00 battery and "they" think I'm good to go. I'm still a little confused, I don't know how I could have had the problems I was having and this is what they found. They drove it today and intend to drive it tomorrow. I told them that I had 1 month left on the warranty and to make sure this will solve my problem.

The battery post was almost broken off and they felt the need to change. The other battery was fine as far as the charge but it was a little jacked up so I agreed to change it. Total ticket would have been $810.00 but with the warranty, my portion is $178.00. Thats the latest. Plan on picking the bitch up Wed before the rain comes in Thursday..FYI
 

rufroggy

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25 successful starts and 75 plus miles and I'm declaring that the dog is fixed. In hindsight, I think that the positive side battery post was the issue. Oh well new "updated" EHC and a battery and i feel better about things.. now, can we kill, lock this thread...
 

DRBarnhart

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The technical term for this is...



:angry: WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!? :angry:


Let us know what they find at the "shop"!

Dennis

PS I still think the problem is with the starter... :rolleyes:
 

rufroggy

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The technical term for this is...



:angry: WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!? :angry:


Let us know what they find at the "shop"!

Dennis

PS I still think the problem is with the starter... :rolleyes:
HMM, Well it looks like they have no damn idea what it is. They agree and also think it's the solenoid ( that was where I thought it was the entire time) so they are changing the starter (and solenoid) and I'm investing in the manual push button on the solenoid.

I told them I can part change I want it fixed! Hopefully I will get the bitch back today..It's getting old but hopefully I'm closer to a resolution! I will advise when I get it back!
 

avdhunter

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Apparently someone other than me!

Still working the bugs out. 3 trouble free days of "good starts" until today. Feeling confident, I took a ride to gas up. Bike started up after refilling. Took another 10-15 minute trip to warm her up. Drove home, killed it and the now very familiar "click" returns. Turned the key off and back on and it starts. 5-6 additional consecutive starts without any problem.

However, now I got another strange issue. When I key up, the speedo is sweeping downwards, bottoming out and then up to 20 mph before returing to 0. Strange shit!
Mine did the same thing the other day. I took all the wires offf the battery, cleaned with battery terminal cleaner, re-installed and sprayed with battery terminal coating(red stuff). No problems since ..... but mine is now doing the crazy speedo thing just as you described! Go figure. Prolly gonna wind up being that damn EHC causing that to happen. If so looks like wires plus time. Did your speedo keep acting up after they changed the EHC?:bang:
 
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