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kickstart said:
It's a good tool but it's still a bitch doing a 300. After Bigdog 41 and I put the new 300 on my K9 I was thinking I needed a bigger Tool :oldsmile:
41 has way more experience using it than I do.
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I did a 300 once on mine .. yeah bit of a struggle... I had only done maybe 3 mounts prior to that .. Done about 10 or so now but just that one 300. Knothead said he done a 330 on his IIRC. Said it was a PIA, took some time . No Mar says 250 max :/ ... I called them once about it .. think they said something like 250 is enough tire for anybody LOL.

My experience has been when mounting a rear tire you have keep bottom bead off the the wheel bead landing when getting the second bead stretched over the wheel. I've considered fabing something like a piece of heater hose and something elastic I could put around the wheel and keep that spaced up off the bottom bead ledge. Other wise it would be nice to have a third arm and hand .. LOL.
 
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HMAN said:
Like a fat bungee cord?
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I figure it should be 3/4 to 1 " diameter.
What i see happen ..
You get the first bead on the wheel easy .
Putting the second bead on ... the tire tilts of coarse .. Well the wide rear tires are pretty stiff . Low side of the tire tilt, the bottom bead wants drop onto the lower beading ledge on the wheel .. You don't want that cause it shifts the tire, you want it up in the low area of the wheel .. which gives less distance to stretch the tire .. Well your using both hands getting the tire stretched on and that opposite side is down on the bead ledge.
You'd like to lift the down side of the tire up and get it off the bead ledge .. but your out of hands . So I want something like a piece of heater hose sitting on the the bead ledge and flange so the tire don't drop on to it. Once tire is on you pull it off the rim and bead the tire .
 
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JohnBoy said:
The No Mar website showed a video of them putting a stiff tire on a shallow drop center rim. They used wood blocks.
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Yeah I use those blocks . But they are used when bead breaking. You break the first bead and flip the wheel/tire to break second bead.
When flipping for the second bead you lock the wheel onto the device using their cam locks. Those blocks are put in on the side where you broke the first bead. They keep a gap between the tire and rim so when flipped the cam locks have a nice gap to get ahold of the rim . When mounting the tire there is enough movement those blocks wouldn't stay in place. Maybe worth a try though.

In there video mounting the second bead goes fairly effortless. Well that's not always the case . That's been my experience and I'm pretty sure it's the same for Kickstart. It's all pretty smooth going other then stretching the 2nd bead on . Maybe I don't do it often enough ? I know in other mounting circumstances every tire model/brand have diffrent strech characteristics, some better then others.
 
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Link to video that best applies to a Bigdog rear tire

FWIW I bought the Classic HD setup w/ receiver mount and a "yellow thing". Have considered getting a pair of their No Mar tire spoons . Pretty sure Knothead told me he's not that impressed with the Yellow Thing. It's done okay for me.

My two hard spots are getting the second bead on . And when putting the muscle to it sometimes the wheel wants to rotate a bit even though I have clamped very tightly. But.. I use it on average once or twice a year. (I have 3 bikes) I don't scratch wheels and ultimately prevail. I'm sure if I used it more my technique would improve.

Something else, Brake rotors and pulleys can be left mounted on the wheel. Somewhere in their info/videos it makes comment about this .

 
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