while driving some sound came and engine died

[oguzb]

Hello,

i was riding my pitbull today and suddenly died, i try to start it doesn't crank seems piston or something stuck. what could it be ?

 

[SCC007]

Sorry to hear. Please describe the sound it made before dying. When you say it doesn’t crank. As in the starter doesn’t engage or it won’t turn the motor?

 

[oguzb]

Sorry to hear. Please describe the sound it made before dying. When you say it doesn’t crank. As in the starter doesn’t engage or it won’t turn the motor?

some metal noise from gear side it was metal noise tik tik tik. when i try to start, it wont turn the motor.

 

[HMAN]

Start by removing both spark plugs. See if it will turn over freely. @ this point you can drop a bore scope into each cylinder to see if there is any obvious motor damage. If still not turning over, pull the outer primary cover and ck to see the small 7/16 starter bolt hasnt come loose. From there you can begin to eliminate "could be's". Meaning, could it be this or that....ect.

 

[Mr. Wright]

Pull the inspection plate off the primary and see if the chain broke, and wadded up in there

 

[knothead]

I wondered the same thing Shannon

 

[knothead]

Or possibly the basket bolts broke and its got it jammed up on the ring gear....possible that a basket bolt broke and is jammed up under the ring gear against the primary bottom locking it where it cant move....like Mr. Wright said pull the inspection cover off....if you dont see nothing clearly pull the whole cover off

 

[Mr. Wright]

Yeah, I forgot the 04's had weak basket bolts. Replaced mine before they broke.

 

[Snuffy]

I too had this thought. I would definitely pull the inspection cove. With you saying there was a noise my first thought was that bolt broke or something came apart in there. Good luck

 

[oguzb]

I open the primary box looks everything ok, could piston stuck?

 

[knothead]

I could have sworn somewhere in this thread the bike was an 04...but anyhow as I see now it's a 05 and up

 

[knothead]

Did you pull the plug like stated above and see if the motor will turn over?

 

[Mickmorris]

I can’t see it real good but that starter jackshaft gear looks messed up & what is all over the pressure plate/chain? Clean that up and take another picture a little closer….

 

[HMAN]

I can’t see it real good but that starter jackshaft gear looks messed up & what is all over the pressure plate/chain? Clean that up and take another picture a little closer….

You got it Mick. I dont see a bolt on the jackshaft? Ive had to fix mine on the street when the bolt backed off.

 

[Mickmorris]

You got it Mick. I dont see a bolt on the jackshaft? Ive had to fix mine on the street when the bolt backed off.

Me too Buddy. Been there. Done that.

 

[knothead]

05 and up doesn't have a jack bolt...gear is on with a snap ring

 

[chubs]

I think I would try removing the sparkplugs, putting it in the highest gear, and rocking the bike back and forth to see if anything loosens up or pieces of parts fall out. Just a thought.

 

[HMAN]

05 and up doesn't have a jack bolt...gear is on with a snap ring

Well thats why there aint no bolt....learned me sumthing today. Thanks Knot!

 

[Snuffy]

There must be more to the story. What had you done or was doing that you normally don’t do when you hear a noise. What kind of noise. How long had you rode prior to this. What modifications have you done and had you done anything just prior to this. Just normal riding and nothing done different wouldn’t cause severe engine failure. Something seems off here.

 

[knothead]

Well thats why there aint no bolt....learned me sumthing today. Thanks Knot!

That's the beauty of changing a starter on a 05 and up is you dont have to pull the primary cover to change the starter.